[ The thought has percolating for a while, but Starscream is abruptly struck by how much younger his counterpart seems in comparison to himself. When was the last time he'd been that exuberant about sharing something with another? That eager to share a common goal with someone? When had he last felt any delight in his goals, instead of only a grim determination...
Starscream pushes the useless thoughts away, reaches out and picks up the datapad that his other had been using to organize the differences coming up between their worlds. ]
At one time there was an Adjuvant's position in Vos... a Seeker who served directly under the Winglord, and whose role it was to centralize this sort information. A dedicated scribe, if you will. It was also their responsibility to enact a convocation if the Winglord was died outside of a Challenge.
[ Starscream snorts. ] As if I'd trust anyone else to be so thorough.
...Perhaps your position held a council, perhaps it's even meant to, but Comet ruled alone and so have I. [ The tone is nothing but thoughtful, the younger Winglord staring off into space a moment as he turns an idea or two over in his head. The war isn't here. The Brigade would be too small to enact such a thing, but... Something for the future, perhaps. ] I'm not even sure if Comet had a trine. Intensely private mech.
[ He shakes his head. ] Regardless. In my experience a lot of Vosnian Seekers were only concerned with Vos. I have details on Kalisian practices, Tarnish, a little smattering of other variants in the culture... Comet was from Tarn, after all. A fair few important Seekers were from Kalis. We can't afford to leave out anything.
[ mildly irritated: ] Didn't you just squall at me not even an hour ago, thinking that I would take all my knowledge to the Pit if I didn't make provisions to share it?
There is no Winglord council or conclave, there never has been, but there was a time where not every single fragging thing needed to be done personally. Some things could be delegated; there had once been support.
[ He doesn't want to start another argument though... honestly he doesn't. He reaches instead for one of the glasses, picking up the engex that has been supplied. His counterpart has mentioned Kalis multiple times, but this is a first for Tarn, he thinks. ]
While Seekers could have sparked in any of the city-states, the majority of them came from Vos, which is why most Cold Constructed Seekers were also produced in Vos. In my universe, there was never any significant Seeker cultural communities outside of Vos... the Senate's enforcement of flight frames in general was too heavily restricted, so most came to Vos if they were able. But certainly there were shared traits common to those who came from Iacon or Helex or wherever.
I didn't say that wasn't sharing. I just don't trust anyone else in the writing. Too much fragging censorship and leaving important things out, even from other Seekers... [ Defensive: ] I'm more than happy to teach anyone interested!
...Mmh. There were a fair amount of cold-constructed in other city-states, but you're right that the majority were created in Vos. The majority of Seekers period came from Vos. Nobody ever could come up with a reasonable explanation as to why the hot spots produced the most there.
You aren't wrong about that. [ Starscream puts his stylus in his mouth as he scrolls through his own datapad, worrying at it a little as he reviews. ] A lot did go to Vos- But Vos had its own restrictions, and frag you if you fell outside them! No wonder mechs went elsewhere. I would have too.
The most significant community of Seekers outside of Vos was in Kalis, as I'm sure I've mentioned, and they tended to take a fair amount of runoff from those who couldn't or wouldn't handle Vos' expected social norms. They had a lot of their own culture, often compensating for the restriction of airspace, but also didn't put nearly as much emphasis on things like trines. ...Skywarp was created in Kalis. He had his enclave's striping on his back even once he'd been acclimated to the army, though he switched the paint so it was only visible with ultraviolet.
[ immediately: ] Mineralogical content. Spark types can be influenced by the composition and density of the regions in which they are drawn upward from the Well. Where certain types of elemental compounds are higher, it predisposes certain Hot Spots to more heavily produce frames styles which best take advantage of that.
It's why we started extensive geological testing after the new Hot Spot was found in Stanix, and how we eventually came to the conclusion that we'd need kyberite to substitute for the lack of natural tutonium. Knock Out is forever going on about how we should try to import substitutes for other depleted planetary elements.
[ Starscream shrugs a little, wings flexing. True, Vos had some very particular customs, but then Starscream was Vosian... he had never known a time where he didn't have to follow those, except after Vos fell, and by then the behaviours were so ingrained that he never gave them a second thought.
Long talons flex around the glass at mention of Skywarp. His gaze strays to his own wrists, once marked with purple and blue as well as red. Not on this frame, he'd only taken this one after, but the colours still superimpose themselves in his mind's eye. ]
Mm. It makes sense for Kalis to have its own strata, being so close to Iacon.
Really? Interesting. [ He pulls the stylus out of his mouth. Cue furious scribbling. ] I don't know if that's the same where I'm from... But I never did get that that degree in geology I wanted. [ Skyfire may have known... But Starscream can't remember him ever mentioning it. Maybe it's just because thoughts of him are so tainted by frost. He just doesn't know.
Of course, one Starscream's silver wrists are unlike the other's sapphire blue. Except... Except, that one's forgotten to hide something. Forgot to keep that one wrist turned just so. The underside of his right wrist, silver in a Vosnian mark, declaring to himself and whoever saw it exactly what sacred rules he violated. Knock Out may have given him the salve, but he still hadn't used it there.
Trinebreaker. ]
I visited both before the war. Kalis and Vos, that is. They both had their positives, and their negatives.
A degree in geology, hm? Doesn't seem to fit with the rest of your—
[ A vague gesture as if to encompass the other science his counterpart seemed so keen on. ]
—chosen academia.
[ His gaze settles on the etched brand there, proclaiming its wretched status. Be careful you do not wear that mark for the wrong reasons... is what he wants to say, but Starscream knows no matter how tacitly he phrases it, nor how genuinely the warning might be meant, his counterpart will react poorly to it. And so in interests of not shattering a still-fragile accord, he says nothing.
He flicks rapidly through the files on his datapad and then uploads to the larger screen, an overhead city map of Vos from prior to the war. The Royal District in the center with the Winglord's Citadel, ringed outward by eight other districts. ]
But my primary intention was to either teach, or continue... Continue exploring other planets. If I could. It's the reason my engines can break atmosphere; I was doing it to fund my studies. [ His voice morphs into something subdued, and for a moment he doesn't look at much of anything. Too many thoughts, and all of them soaked in ice.
He doesn't even notice that his counterpart has seen his wrist.
Instead, he stands, a spark of bright curiosity in his optics, at the sight of Vos. ] That's not like the Vos I know- Well, not quite. A Royal District? Interesting. The Senate's seat of power in Vos was... Here. Not quite in the same place, but rather close I think.
[ His hand drifts, coasting over two places on the map. Skyfire had lived there. Thundercracker had trained in swordplay here. It was... A sliver of old memories that he only got secondhand. ]
[ Yet more differences manifesting between them. His own flirtation with attending the university in Iacon had been brief, and ultimately left by the wayside of more targeted avenues to power. ]
That is an intriguing ability. Not one that I've had, even when my frame more closely resembled yours. A relatively recent upgrade has given this frame longer spaceflight capability, but not enough to get through atmosphere.
[ Starscream looks at the map of Vos; his expression is controlled, but still resigned. ]
The "Royal" district is only named so for the Citadel. The Senatorial grounds were in the Perihelion District, along with most of the other political holdings.
[ But of course, power had been the farthest thing from this Starscream's mind at the time. Power came later. Power came with the Decepticons. ]
I made the modifications myself. You used to..? [ He considers it, looking at his counterpart as if trying to imagine him in the same colours, in a similar blocky frame. He can't quite do it. ] Interesting.
Course, we didn't have any such Citadel, which is probably the reason for the difference... There was a military school here, fed directly into the Air Force. Was it there for you too? [ He taps it on the map. ] Course, only open to citizens of Vos. Pah. Not enough focus on the sciences there, anyway.
This wasn't the frame I was originally constructed with. My original one looked much more like yours, one of the standard Cold templates used for Seekers during that era.
[ He'd had modification done even back then, wherever he could find funds and means to do so. Trying to make himself "fit" into a frame that was bland, and boring, and generic. It had felt wrong. In Vos, such modifications were not prohibited the way they were in other parts of Cybertron, where jets and shuttles were just meant to be accessories for industry and military. In Vos they'd clawed back some semblance of autonomy. ]
It makes sense that you wouldn't have a Citadel, if the Winglord position had been so thoroughly voided under Senate rule. The military academy was in the Vector district, which was also later where Air Command was built. My Vos was organized mostly by motif, grouping sections of the city together more cohesively. But you're right that our sciences were never on par with those in Iacon.
Our academy was not restricted by Vosian citizenship, although most wanted to become citizens because of the protections it offered fliers.
This is my original frame, but... I don't know. I didn't meet very many of the same frame at first. Just played around with pronouns for a while, and then did mostly internal modifications here and there...
[ It's all said in a distracted tone, wings flicking idly as he continues to examine the top-down view.
There's a small scoff at the 'most' there. ] I didn't. The Kalisians didn't.
Anyway. The districts do seem roughly the same... Though, I say that tentatively. I'm not from Vos, so I wouldn't slagging know for sure.
[ Starscream's optics narrow slightly at the scoff. ]
I wasn't speaking for your world, I'm saying it was true in mine.
[ He takes a drink, rather than indulge something more catty. ]
I can compile a more in-depth file on my Vos for your project, I'd you'd like. It won't be exactly the same as what ends up being rebuilt, but I will keep the parts that worked best.
[ Well, that’s certainly enough feeling at the edges of it, then. Time to just say it, and say it bluntly. ]
I was built in Iacon. Much of what I know about Vos is very much an outsider looking in. And all that entails.
[ Fighting for every scrap of culture that should have been his in the first place, kept from him by just about everyone. An Iacon Seeker would be second class in Vos, and everything else was Iacon itself’s fault. ]
…That would be helpful, thank you. I can write up a compare and contrast on the two, perhaps.
[ Starscream wouldn't say that those who'd come online in cities other than Vos were treated the same as Vosia-sparked mechs in every sense — legally they would have had the same rights, but socially there might have been some tension, depending on how readily someone wanted to assimilate to Vosian culture.
He nods at the thanks, and makes a note to put together said file later. But for the moment he ventures no further information, not knowing what his counterpart is after for topic. ]
[ Oh, that's a weird feeling. It's been weird enough, weighing 'thank you's in his mouth this past while, but- Getting a response in return from this mech... Strange.
But at least the admittance had served its purpose, in a sense. To gauge what his counterpart's reaction would be to them coming from different places. He's certainly got a bit of that Vosnian superiority around him- Something that Starscream will never say out loud to him.
Maybe it'll need a bit more of feeling things out. ] ...There's a lot more Seekers aboard than you'd think. Than they'd think, unfortunately. This text is going to get a lot of use.
[ Starscream has many, many reasons to encounter friction with his counterpart — the fact that he is Iaconian-made rather than Vosian is very low on that list. ]
What do you mean, more Seekers than they'd think? They are either a Seeker, or they are not. It isn't something you can opt into.
[ He stifles the urge to roll his optics. Unfortunately this isn't the first time he's heard words like this, and usually not from people he ended up liking. ]
'Seeker' encompasses a lot more than just a couple frame types. Course, they used EVERY variation possible in our anatomy to other us, and bar everyone who COULD have laid claim to our culture but those few...
They might not have all the variations. But they still deserve to have the choice.
Yes... a Seeker can be of any number of aerial frame types. Cold Constructed were almost exclusively jets, because we were built for military use, but in Forged Seekers the variations are much more pronounced.
I am not following your logic. Seekers have trine cores. Other flight types do not. How is that anything other than a binary result?
The Seekers I know of have a combination of a specific type of social instincts - which of course vary from mech to mech, but are still very Seeker - a more pronounced response to restriction of flight, vocal structure somewhat more suited to 'Vosnian' than typical cybex... Again, all of which have been used to classify us to death. [ His words end in a sharp hiss; he has had it up to here with such things, killing the greys of their culture by painting it in blacks and whites. ]
[ He taps his own side, underneath his lateral vents, approximately where a human kidney would be. ]
Most of those behaviours you describe are true, but the trine core is— [ Medical, stick to the medical. ] —what dictates many those behaviours and effects, as well as providing the resonancy between trined mechs. Your frame doesn't have one?
[ This wasn't something that Starscream had considered, but then he hadn't looked at any of the medical records for the other Seekers on board, except for Acid Storm, and even then he'd only been looking for information on her condition, not her frame specs. ]
I'm not claiming that the information being assembled here should be restricted. I... had not realized Seekers in other worlds were biologically different.
No. Fragging pits, if it had all been dictated by an organ, the Senate would have just started tearing it out of us and damn the consequences. [ His wings flare, somewhat defensively.
He doesn't like the thought. Of having so much of it biologically encoded - did this Starscream's world have Seekers HAVE to get a trine? - or of how the mere existence of such a thing could open up new worlds of cultural and generational trauma. They'd already suffered so much. ]
Seekers where I am from are biologically different from other mechs in some ways, yes, but not- Not to that extent.
No... they commissioned us built with them, the Colds. Because the flight capability benefits that a trined fighter gets empirically outweighed the social and psychological eccentricities it caused.
Cold Constructed were often looked down on by Forged Seekers, even though by my era we held the same standing by law. That hadn't always been the case. One of the few things Solarburn did correctly.
[ Starscream's wings are carefully still in intentional contrast to the other's sudden surge of emotional reaction. ]
I would not have mentioned it, had I known it would upset you.
[ He brings the flare of his wings back in at that, standing straighter. Drawing the display into something controlled; he used to be better at this, he swears. But he takes a vent, and shakes his head. ]
Well. At least that's the same where I'm from. Cold and forged... A stupid, stupid split.
...It's just a little alarming. I think there were mechs they would have removed it from back home, and done so in quite large swathes. [ He thinks of Skyfire. Tries not to think of Skyfire. ]
I also rather like the fact I didn't have to trine except on my own terms. Thousands of years after any 'good' Seeker would have, for that matter. [ There's a bitter grin, soon shaken off. ] Still managed to get a traditionally sturdy one. Hah.
[ sharply: ] Don't imply I trined on baser instincts rather than by my own choice. A trine core is not an all-consuming replacement for sense, it is simply a component of other systems.
[ A beat, and his EM field eases from where it'd grown prickly in an instant. He didn't like the implication, whether it had been intended or not, that he had somehow settled for trining with Skywarp and Thundercracker to sate some biological need. He would not have his counterpart thinking that Seekers of his universe were the equivalent of organics in heat or whatever disgusting allegory it conjured up. ]
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Starscream pushes the useless thoughts away, reaches out and picks up the datapad that his other had been using to organize the differences coming up between their worlds. ]
At one time there was an Adjuvant's position in Vos... a Seeker who served directly under the Winglord, and whose role it was to centralize this sort information. A dedicated scribe, if you will. It was also their responsibility to enact a convocation if the Winglord was died outside of a Challenge.
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...Perhaps your position held a council, perhaps it's even meant to, but Comet ruled alone and so have I. [ The tone is nothing but thoughtful, the younger Winglord staring off into space a moment as he turns an idea or two over in his head. The war isn't here. The Brigade would be too small to enact such a thing, but... Something for the future, perhaps. ] I'm not even sure if Comet had a trine. Intensely private mech.
[ He shakes his head. ] Regardless. In my experience a lot of Vosnian Seekers were only concerned with Vos. I have details on Kalisian practices, Tarnish, a little smattering of other variants in the culture... Comet was from Tarn, after all. A fair few important Seekers were from Kalis. We can't afford to leave out anything.
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There is no Winglord council or conclave, there never has been, but there was a time where not every single fragging thing needed to be done personally. Some things could be delegated; there had once been support.
[ He doesn't want to start another argument though... honestly he doesn't. He reaches instead for one of the glasses, picking up the engex that has been supplied. His counterpart has mentioned Kalis multiple times, but this is a first for Tarn, he thinks. ]
While Seekers could have sparked in any of the city-states, the majority of them came from Vos, which is why most Cold Constructed Seekers were also produced in Vos. In my universe, there was never any significant Seeker cultural communities outside of Vos... the Senate's enforcement of flight frames in general was too heavily restricted, so most came to Vos if they were able. But certainly there were shared traits common to those who came from Iacon or Helex or wherever.
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...Mmh. There were a fair amount of cold-constructed in other city-states, but you're right that the majority were created in Vos. The majority of Seekers period came from Vos. Nobody ever could come up with a reasonable explanation as to why the hot spots produced the most there.
You aren't wrong about that. [ Starscream puts his stylus in his mouth as he scrolls through his own datapad, worrying at it a little as he reviews. ] A lot did go to Vos- But Vos had its own restrictions, and frag you if you fell outside them! No wonder mechs went elsewhere. I would have too.
The most significant community of Seekers outside of Vos was in Kalis, as I'm sure I've mentioned, and they tended to take a fair amount of runoff from those who couldn't or wouldn't handle Vos' expected social norms. They had a lot of their own culture, often compensating for the restriction of airspace, but also didn't put nearly as much emphasis on things like trines. ...Skywarp was created in Kalis. He had his enclave's striping on his back even once he'd been acclimated to the army, though he switched the paint so it was only visible with ultraviolet.
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It's why we started extensive geological testing after the new Hot Spot was found in Stanix, and how we eventually came to the conclusion that we'd need kyberite to substitute for the lack of natural tutonium. Knock Out is forever going on about how we should try to import substitutes for other depleted planetary elements.
[ Starscream shrugs a little, wings flexing. True, Vos had some very particular customs, but then Starscream was Vosian... he had never known a time where he didn't have to follow those, except after Vos fell, and by then the behaviours were so ingrained that he never gave them a second thought.
Long talons flex around the glass at mention of Skywarp. His gaze strays to his own wrists, once marked with purple and blue as well as red. Not on this frame, he'd only taken this one after, but the colours still superimpose themselves in his mind's eye. ]
Mm. It makes sense for Kalis to have its own strata, being so close to Iacon.
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Of course, one Starscream's silver wrists are unlike the other's sapphire blue. Except... Except, that one's forgotten to hide something. Forgot to keep that one wrist turned just so. The underside of his right wrist, silver in a Vosnian mark, declaring to himself and whoever saw it exactly what sacred rules he violated. Knock Out may have given him the salve, but he still hadn't used it there.
Trinebreaker. ]
I visited both before the war. Kalis and Vos, that is. They both had their positives, and their negatives.
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[ A vague gesture as if to encompass the other science his counterpart seemed so keen on. ]
—chosen academia.
[ His gaze settles on the etched brand there, proclaiming its wretched status. Be careful you do not wear that mark for the wrong reasons... is what he wants to say, but Starscream knows no matter how tacitly he phrases it, nor how genuinely the warning might be meant, his counterpart will react poorly to it. And so in interests of not shattering a still-fragile accord, he says nothing.
He flicks rapidly through the files on his datapad and then uploads to the larger screen, an overhead city map of Vos from prior to the war. The Royal District in the center with the Winglord's Citadel, ringed outward by eight other districts. ]
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But my primary intention was to either teach, or continue... Continue exploring other planets. If I could. It's the reason my engines can break atmosphere; I was doing it to fund my studies. [ His voice morphs into something subdued, and for a moment he doesn't look at much of anything. Too many thoughts, and all of them soaked in ice.
He doesn't even notice that his counterpart has seen his wrist.
Instead, he stands, a spark of bright curiosity in his optics, at the sight of Vos. ] That's not like the Vos I know- Well, not quite. A Royal District? Interesting. The Senate's seat of power in Vos was... Here. Not quite in the same place, but rather close I think.
[ His hand drifts, coasting over two places on the map. Skyfire had lived there. Thundercracker had trained in swordplay here. It was... A sliver of old memories that he only got secondhand. ]
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That is an intriguing ability. Not one that I've had, even when my frame more closely resembled yours. A relatively recent upgrade has given this frame longer spaceflight capability, but not enough to get through atmosphere.
[ Starscream looks at the map of Vos; his expression is controlled, but still resigned. ]
The "Royal" district is only named so for the Citadel. The Senatorial grounds were in the Perihelion District, along with most of the other political holdings.
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I made the modifications myself. You used to..? [ He considers it, looking at his counterpart as if trying to imagine him in the same colours, in a similar blocky frame. He can't quite do it. ] Interesting.
Course, we didn't have any such Citadel, which is probably the reason for the difference... There was a military school here, fed directly into the Air Force. Was it there for you too? [ He taps it on the map. ] Course, only open to citizens of Vos. Pah. Not enough focus on the sciences there, anyway.
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[ He'd had modification done even back then, wherever he could find funds and means to do so. Trying to make himself "fit" into a frame that was bland, and boring, and generic. It had felt wrong. In Vos, such modifications were not prohibited the way they were in other parts of Cybertron, where jets and shuttles were just meant to be accessories for industry and military. In Vos they'd clawed back some semblance of autonomy. ]
It makes sense that you wouldn't have a Citadel, if the Winglord position had been so thoroughly voided under Senate rule. The military academy was in the Vector district, which was also later where Air Command was built. My Vos was organized mostly by motif, grouping sections of the city together more cohesively. But you're right that our sciences were never on par with those in Iacon.
Our academy was not restricted by Vosian citizenship, although most wanted to become citizens because of the protections it offered fliers.
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[ It's all said in a distracted tone, wings flicking idly as he continues to examine the top-down view.
There's a small scoff at the 'most' there. ] I didn't. The Kalisians didn't.
Anyway. The districts do seem roughly the same... Though, I say that tentatively. I'm not from Vos, so I wouldn't slagging know for sure.
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I wasn't speaking for your world, I'm saying it was true in mine.
[ He takes a drink, rather than indulge something more catty. ]
I can compile a more in-depth file on my Vos for your project, I'd you'd like. It won't be exactly the same as what ends up being rebuilt, but I will keep the parts that worked best.
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I was built in Iacon. Much of what I know about Vos is very much an outsider looking in. And all that entails.
[ Fighting for every scrap of culture that should have been his in the first place, kept from him by just about everyone. An Iacon Seeker would be second class in Vos, and everything else was Iacon itself’s fault. ]
…That would be helpful, thank you. I can write up a compare and contrast on the two, perhaps.
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He nods at the thanks, and makes a note to put together said file later. But for the moment he ventures no further information, not knowing what his counterpart is after for topic. ]
You're welcome.
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But at least the admittance had served its purpose, in a sense. To gauge what his counterpart's reaction would be to them coming from different places. He's certainly got a bit of that Vosnian superiority around him- Something that Starscream will never say out loud to him.
Maybe it'll need a bit more of feeling things out. ] ...There's a lot more Seekers aboard than you'd think. Than they'd think, unfortunately. This text is going to get a lot of use.
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What do you mean, more Seekers than they'd think? They are either a Seeker, or they are not. It isn't something you can opt into.
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'Seeker' encompasses a lot more than just a couple frame types. Course, they used EVERY variation possible in our anatomy to other us, and bar everyone who COULD have laid claim to our culture but those few...
They might not have all the variations. But they still deserve to have the choice.
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I am not following your logic. Seekers have trine cores. Other flight types do not. How is that anything other than a binary result?
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The Seekers I know of have a combination of a specific type of social instincts - which of course vary from mech to mech, but are still very Seeker - a more pronounced response to restriction of flight, vocal structure somewhat more suited to 'Vosnian' than typical cybex... Again, all of which have been used to classify us to death. [ His words end in a sharp hiss; he has had it up to here with such things, killing the greys of their culture by painting it in blacks and whites. ]
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[ He taps his own side, underneath his lateral vents, approximately where a human kidney would be. ]
Most of those behaviours you describe are true, but the trine core is— [ Medical, stick to the medical. ] —what dictates many those behaviours and effects, as well as providing the resonancy between trined mechs. Your frame doesn't have one?
[ This wasn't something that Starscream had considered, but then he hadn't looked at any of the medical records for the other Seekers on board, except for Acid Storm, and even then he'd only been looking for information on her condition, not her frame specs. ]
I'm not claiming that the information being assembled here should be restricted. I... had not realized Seekers in other worlds were biologically different.
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He doesn't like the thought. Of having so much of it biologically encoded - did this Starscream's world have Seekers HAVE to get a trine? - or of how the mere existence of such a thing could open up new worlds of cultural and generational trauma. They'd already suffered so much. ]
Seekers where I am from are biologically different from other mechs in some ways, yes, but not- Not to that extent.
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Cold Constructed were often looked down on by Forged Seekers, even though by my era we held the same standing by law. That hadn't always been the case. One of the few things Solarburn did correctly.
[ Starscream's wings are carefully still in intentional contrast to the other's sudden surge of emotional reaction. ]
I would not have mentioned it, had I known it would upset you.
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Well. At least that's the same where I'm from. Cold and forged... A stupid, stupid split.
...It's just a little alarming. I think there were mechs they would have removed it from back home, and done so in quite large swathes. [ He thinks of Skyfire. Tries not to think of Skyfire. ]
I also rather like the fact I didn't have to trine except on my own terms. Thousands of years after any 'good' Seeker would have, for that matter. [ There's a bitter grin, soon shaken off. ] Still managed to get a traditionally sturdy one. Hah.
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[ A beat, and his EM field eases from where it'd grown prickly in an instant. He didn't like the implication, whether it had been intended or not, that he had somehow settled for trining with Skywarp and Thundercracker to sate some biological need. He would not have his counterpart thinking that Seekers of his universe were the equivalent of organics in heat or whatever disgusting allegory it conjured up. ]
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